Joe Buck vs Chris Rose
Fact File: Fox's #1 play by play man for NFL and MLB. Has announced several World Series and Super Bowls.
Why He's Here: Joe Buck has quickly risen to the top of the most disliked sports announcers. His dry, monotone style doesn't quite fit in with an age where Gus Johnson and Kevin Harlan are two of the more popular sports announcers in the business. Beyond that though, Joe Buck has a certain air of smugness towards his announcing duties, even admitting in the past that he isn't that big of a sports fan. His attempted and failed late night career told sports fans that he had bigger and better things to do than announce the biggest games in sports.
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Fact File: NFL on Fox play by play and Fox Sports studio host
Why He's Here: Chris Rose had a decent run on FSN's Best Damn Sports Show Period. Yes, the show was only good for about a year, but Rose had his moments. His run as a play by play man... not so much. Rose is far from the worst play by play man, but that's about the best thing you can say. His work as a serious studio host and reporter has also been widely criticized.
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I fail to see why people don't consider FX a real contender. Remember FX did pick up College Football (Big 12, Pac-12, and CUSA), as well as Pac-12 Basketball games (Men's Tournament) and some UEFA Soccer games. FX also was moved to the DISH basic package. whereas Versus isn't on the basic package, meaning it would have more homes already available for the games to be viewed in.
The NHL contract wouldn't conflict since Versus contract is for Monday, Tuesday, and occasionally weekend games, not Thursday games. Versus also has made huge bounds thanks to their college football games from the Pac-12 the past few years in terms of the number of households they are available in.
If Turner were to get the rights, expect TNT to be the home. Remember that Turner has most of the baseball playoff rights, which take place in October, on TBS. Those include Thursday night games. This contract would be mostly for September and October, meaning they would actually conflict with each other if they were to be on the same network.
The thing to remember with ESPN is that ESPN has been flexible with the college football Thursday times in the past, and there is no certain start time associated with these early 8 games yet. There's no reason ESPN couldn't move the college football game up 3 hours, to 5 PM, and then air the NFL game at 8:30 PM. ESPN has also had ESPN2 broadcast college football on Thursday night, so there's always that option of moving it over as well.
I dig reading your take on all the television business stuff. Other people do good jobs reporting this stuff but you break it down and take some shots at the networks which is different. It would be the ultimate move if ESPN somehow stole this package
You seem to assume that ESPN would keep college football on Thursday and let this package go. On the contrary. ESPN has college football on Thursday nights because they couldn't have the NFL then. Now that the package is available, I fully expect ESPN to bid and win it. After all, they now have more money to play with after losing the NHL and the Olympics to Comcast. ESPN also has a big, long Monday Night package that could use some double advertising on Thursday nights.
@indyblimp I wouldn't discount them. Will be interesting to see what shakes out. I'll definitely give you a shout out if you end up being right. On the flip side those college games have been negotiated for awhile so it might not be easy to move the package without burning bridges with their college partners.
@BenKoo ESPN has ESPN2, ESPNU and, in a real pinch, ESPN Classic these games can be moved to. It might get a bit hairy schedule wise for the weeks ESPN is airing MLB. However, there are several options available within the corporation to move these games and keep them on Thursday evenings.
Besides, ESPN will probably make more money off a NFL Thursday night package than they will a NCAA Thursday night package due to higher ratings. I also expect this to be an audition. If the NFL sees that they can make more profit being simply paid for the second half of the Thursday package instead funding the cost of airing it themselves, they will do it in a heartbeat. I guarantee that ESPN would love to be in that catbird seat should it come calling.
Versus isn't in nearly enough homes. I would think they'd have to get guarantees from providers that they will be added to the base, cheapest package for the NFL to even consider them.
@Dayman_OS they definitely have work to do. Versus is in about 75 million homes. ESPN is in just under 100 million. So they're 3/4th there.
With the NFL and Olympics, I'd wager they'll be above 90 million and probably right on the tale of ESPN by 2012 summer. Increased households and carriage fees is the reason why they'll get the package imo.
A - This was news a week ago when ESPN reported it was part of the upcoming labor agreement.
B - The NHL season begins in the first week of October so these games would overlap if on Versus. Not a dealbreaker, but not quite the smooth transition you noted.
@frankfrank you're definitely right on on B. As for A, Mortensen did report that the players were getting traction with the NFL for them to pursue this as a new revenue stream but it was never confirmed that the talks indeed called off.
The NFLPA has made this a talking point for quite awhile and seem to have won that point as the NFL can't play the "no profits" card when ignoring $700 million of revenue.