The mutual disdain between Mark May and Ohio State fans is well established. May takes every chance he gets to knock the Buckeyes and their fans down a peg or two on television, and every Ohio State message board, blog, and Twitter page has some space dedicated on it as to why they hate Mark May. It makes Charles Barkley's little dustup with the Big Ten look like an international peace summit.
This week, May referenced Ohio State's mascot Brutus getting hammered during a spring practice as an opportunity to take another shot at the "haters" from Buckeye Nation. First, the clip of mascot violence - thank goodness the real person inside that suit has a giant foam helmet of a poisonous nut on his head...
Alluding to the viral video, May posted the following on his Facebook page...
The comments on the post are almost all negative feedback from Ohio State fans, naturally. The feud between May and Ohio State fans is reaching abusrd and hilarious proportions. You think May still hasn't gotten over Ohio State fans chanting "Mark May sucks" at him after the 2011 Sugar Bowl?
I honestly don't know where the feud between Mark May and Ohio State began. There are various theories as to its genesis - 11 Warriors had a post dedicated to May vs OSU with a hypothesis that it comes from the Buckeyes' 72-0 victory over May's alma mater in 1996. However the feud started, it's become the Hatfields and McCoys of announcers and fans of a particular team. And in the tribal realm of college football fandom, those provincial alliances and haterism become more and more entrenched. There have been groups of fans that have accused certain announcers or analysts of bias before, but I don't recall one getting to the point where an analyst says he wants to jack up an entire fanbase on his Facebook page and inflict physical pain upon them.
Normally I would say it's a blight on ESPN's credibility and all that jazz, but this is so ridiculously over the top you can't even take the feud or May's analysis of the team seriously. Is it a problem for ESPN and its presentation of the sport that one of its college football analysts publicly says he wants to beat down "haters" from a particular school, especially when the media has so much influence over perception and rankings? Of course it should be! But at this point, nobody should take May at his word when he's breaking down anything remotely associated with OSU next year. It'd be like expecting neutral, impartial coverage from Fox News or MSNBC.
The feud is good for a laugh, but in all honesty it's now reaching cartoonish levels. (Not to mention May's cartoonish skits with Lou Holtz analyzing the rest of college football.) What's next? Mark May takes a crowbar to Braxton Miller's knee before the Michigan game this year to finally settle the score with Buckeye Nation?
No, the coaches did not force him to leave the team, Perkins chose to transfer himself.
Fair and balanced coverage? I think not! Yes, I happen to be a Buckeye fan, but more importantly a college football fan. Mark May sounds like an unprofessional punk, who uses his job to down a team and the Big Ten any chance he gets. I believe ESPN should man-up and ask him to publicly apologize to the Buckeyes and the Big Ten. I dont hate Pitt, but I definitely am not a Mark May fan and may consider tuning out any program he is part of. Hmm, maybe some lost fans and revenue would influence ESPN to "Do the right thing"
Come on children...give it up already. The discussion is about Mark May and not about your attempts to make you feel better about yourself through team win/loss record debates. GEEZE......
Some tidbits you can share with the idiotic TTUN fans holding onto history before we were alive (hence 1897-1919...in other words...WAY before American football became relevant;-) Just for you Kiddet. Since he can't understand this was originally a thread about May's hatred for OSU. Seems Keddet may be worse:-)
Since TTUN is in contention for a lot of our recruits I figured I would compare us head-to-head since I’m sure one of their major pitches is the historical success of their program. (Not verified as I looked pretty quickly but the preliminary results were pretty interesting)
Since 1919 (before which OSU never beat TTUN) the head-to-head series is tied 45-45 (if you do not take out the 2010 win) and since 1928 OSU is ahead 42-39 winning 10 out of the last 12
Since 1919 OSU leads in wins 692-681 (680-681 if you take out 2010) and since 1928 they are ahead 651-628 (117-90 since our national championship season in 2002)
Since 1919 OSU leads in national championships 7-6 and since mid-century they are ahead 6-1
Since 1928 conference championships are tied 31-31 (32-31 if you count 2010) and OSU is ahead 7-2 since 2002
OSU leads in Heisman Trophies 7-3
OSU leads in BCS bowls 9-5 (if you count 2010) as well as BCS bowl wins 6-2
Finally, OSU leads in NFL draft picks 329-274 (70-43 since 2002) and 1st round draft picks 68-40 (14-6 since 2002)
TTUN can say all they want about their program but if you look at the facts, if you remove irrelevant early years when there was not as much competition and look at close to the last century, especially the last decade, The Ohio State University has been a much better program. Go Bucks!
I love it! At times I run the risk of taking all of this personally, but I have to put it all into perspective. When we look at other countries, I don't think any have the different avenues for personal entertainment and educational oppurtunities. But it's a nice setup for kickin' Michigan's arss this November...yes Michigan, I do believe you took advandtage of the series from the 1800's but I can't deny you've got the edge for overall record by a few games easily, but what's been trending is Michigan trying to recover from Rich Rodrigez non big ten type personel. But it's about to get real good! Peace...
May hates tOSU because tOSU wouldn't recruit him to play... He was forced to go 'play', which was mediocre at best, at Pitt, where they got dismantled by tOSU
1st time i have even heard about mays hate for osu and or its fans, sounds like dude has issues that needs addressed by a physic, would like to know the reason, although it really doesn't matter to me, everyone has the rite to like or dislike who ever for what ever reason even if it's justified or not, some people just need mental help.counsel i guess, THEIR LOSS i think the word for them is HATERS, im an buckeye fan BIG TIME always have been id be willing to meet old dude MAY anywhere any time just to put his *ss n check and square things for my beloved buckeyes THATS THE TYPE OF LOVE I HAVE FOR MY BUCKS, THE MACC DADDY OF BUCKEYE FOOTBALL LANCASTER,OHIO
let haters hate just bring your badass to columbus anyday cold or hot! Yeah!! bring that southern stuff to the midwest in November & December when its natural grass 15 degrees rained the day before & was 65 degrees...It's colder than freezing wet and your will gets tested...that's the single most often overlooked fact of how football games get affected by weather...
I don't think anyone is hated more, while I don't hate or want to be hated OSU is today what Nebreska was to me in the 1990s just that damn team youre tired of...
The Ohio State University has antartic polar ice cores dating back 10 thousands of years unlocking data from the past , and other stuff...OSU is out there turning pages in human evolution it's happening as we speak. The matrix is real & The Ohio State University pulls the strings..and keep on hatin' like I giv a Dub bout' your school anyway...seriously why you even taking the time to hate? Layin' a lotta weight on the OSU hate! You are the epitimy of "didn't know he didn't know type deal!
You know the funny thing is its gona cost him his job because he either has to shut up or gona get fired. But I do believe he and ESPN is a recruiting tool for the SEC think about it you know every high school kid sits and watches ESPN so if you have them sittin there saying the SEC is the place to go has to influence players 17 or 18 year olds????
Thanks for your infinite words of wisdom KimWilson. You are no better than the second-tier analyst you type to defend. Gheez.....not GEEZE......
@bhopk1976 Your key words are "remove irrelevant early years". Who is it irrelevant too? You and your stat compilation that you created, or how about Ohio nation. I bet it was relevant to those players who beat OSU year after year, in the early 1900's. So, for you to say the early years really don't matter, is foolish, and uneducated. Those where still student athletes competing at the same level. So take your OSU inflated stats and shove em where the sun don't shine.
@spagester Hey did you guys win that National Title going 12-0? Oh, that's right... You got caught cheating. Then your school decides to honor the Mr. Sweater vest himself. I hope he doesn't fire Gorden Geeeeeeeee.
@Bucks you are correct in your comment. I was at the Heisman Hall last July in Columbus and was talking with a former OSU lineman that played with May for the Redskins. He made the very same comment that May hated tOSU because he really wanted to play there but was not recruited.
@kiddet UR A JOKE AND A P((K 2 BET U LIKE THOSE PICKEL FACTORIES
@kiddet What's the matter? Tired of losing to OSU?
@samuel0917 This is just so, so sad. Trying to be a leech is so.... pathetic.
@dbrbuckeyes I am shocked you could even read this article. You know, being a OSU fan and all.
Yes, who wouldn't be?
@ILoveHaters Then can you please get off my Balls then...
@samuel0917 Hmmm did u read it?
@kiddet @BenHopkins 12-0...all I need to say. BTW who's the one who got on here originally to "whine" as you call it. I'm proving a point...your team owns a record that every sports fan will acknowledge is older than we are. IF you say 1890-1950 with TTUN winning 80% of those games and now say your team owns us is a JOKE. Wake up bud...your team will lose and continue to do so to OSU. You know it...accept it and move on. I am....you won't see me here again. It was originally to say how Mark May is just a ignorant fuck...now I can see you are just as much as him....obviously. GO Bucks!
What kind of cheese would like with that "Whine". Excuses, excuses, excuses. That's all osu has to offer. Continue to ignore the overall record all you want, but the fact remains Michigan owns osu, plain and simple. osu will never lead in the overall series, so osu fans must continue to offer excuses and whine about how history doesn't really count. Again, the only fact osu fans can't get around is that Michigan leads the series, between the two schools, and always will.
Keep holding onto history Kiddet...because recent history tells me OSU owns that state up north. Tress owned it for 2000-2010. Now Urban will from 2012-???? I love hearing TTUN fans holding onto history that happened before College Football was popular...like 1890-1945....when we weren't even alive. How about those facts Kiddet. Oh wait...you're going to bring up 1987-1999...that's the ONLY reason you are ahead in the overall win/lose total. Come back in 2020 if you're still alive due to your stress/depression over losing that only thing you have to hold onto...OSU will be beat that ass every year. All of us OSU fans will have bragging rights just like we did for over ten years;-)
@ILoveHaters It is painfully apparent that your inability to process complex trains of thought,(that means two or more), at the same time, leads you to respond on a base level. The only level I'm sure you understand. Your response has nothing to do with the topic at hand. So here is what we are going to do, I will break it down to its most simplistic form,,,, Michigan 58 wins, osu 45 wins and 6 ties. Now take your time and try to comprehend,(oops that word may be too big), I mean try and understand what those numbers mean; and then figure out who has the better record. I'll give you day or two to figure it out. If you need help, it's all right, go ask someone for help.
@samuel0917 Go back to the bridge, troll.
@kiddet Hahahaha, so your big response to my last statement is "I'm not stupid. You're stupid." I guess I overshot when I was guessing how old you were, as it's now obvious that you're 10.
Obviously with the limited education you received at osu, you apparently don't know what the word "intelligent" means. Which is understandable. So because of your limited understanding of the English language you probably won't be receiving an intelligent answer from anyone. Especially from those who don't agree with your logically challenged assertions.
@kiddet So I guess this means I won't be getting an intelligent response from you?
Please don't act the fool. It's osu's selective memory that prompted my post. I'm not saying the last three years is the measuring stick with which to judge the osu/Michigan series. What I'm saying is that if the "excuse prone" osu fans choose to use a selective memory over the last ten years, Michigan fans should choose to use the results over this three year period as their selective memory period. The correct answer is that Michigan dominates the overall W/L record between the two schools. But again the "excuse prone" osu fans refuse to acknowledge this fact.
@kiddet So Michigan football started in 1879, whereas OSU football didn't start until 1890. I'd say you're team had just a small benefit of having more than a decades worth of practices up until that point.
OSU didn't have a coach who was that good until around 1934 with Francis Schmidt, who went 4-3 against Michigan until he left in 1940. And during those three losses, Fritz Crisler was the head coach of Michigan.
In 1951, Woody Hayes became head coach at Ohio State, where he went 17-11 against Michigan, during which time Bo Schembechler was Michigan's head coach. After he left, Schembechler stayed until 1989, where he went 6-5 against OSU.
Gary Moeller and Lloyd Carr coached against John Cooper from 1990-2000, when they went 8-2 against OSU. Cooper never could win the big ones (and I mean against Michigan, mostly), which ultimately got him fired. This brings us to the Tressel era, in which OSU went 9-1 against Michigan. Since I'm figuring you're probably around your 20's, Lets go back about 25 years and look at the records since then, rather than going back to the end of the 19th century and beginning of the 20th century. If we go from 1988-2013, the rivalry record that you may have been alive for is 12-12-1.
I'm not trying to disparage Michigan, I'm just saying let's put together a time frame that isn't utterly ridiculous in it's span. OSU-Michigan is the greatest rivalry in sports, but it really didn't become that until Woody Hayes became head coach. Yes, Michigan does have to overall record, but what makes them so important to college football history is the rivalry with OSU.
All I ever hear from osu fans are excuse after excuse after excuse. Grow a pair and accept the fact that never in your life time will osu ever lead in the Michigan series. After Michigan beats osu this year, osu fans will continue to use their selective view of history to justify their insatiable need to think they are better than Michigan, which will never be. I can hear it now, after Michigan beats osu, Michigan fans will tout Michigan's overall record against osu and osu fans will say osu has dominated Michigan this century. If they want to take that approach then they will have to accept the fact that Michigan will have beaten osu two out of the last three years. And Michigan will begin to point out that order is beginning to be restored to the universe. osu fans say Michigan beat them in their worst year, that won't be the case this year, but using osu's method of justification for osu's loss to Michigan, then it must be accepted that Michigan's experiment, of completely changing their style of play to the spread offense, was the cause for Michigan losing to osu for three years, they were truly Michigan's worst years.. Once that system was abandoned and Michigan went back to "Michigan football" they beat osu, as will be the case again, this year.
U@kiddet @ILoveHaters --- really, the classy Men of Michigan do live in the real world, and can differentiate between the unstructured early years of collegiate level pigskin tussles, and what followers of the sport call the "modern era." During the years when leagues were set, rules uniform, helmets moved past leather (aka "the modern era"), the record between the two universities is more in favor of the team from Columbus.
@kiddet Really? So you're going to hang your hat on a win against us during one of the worst seasons in OSU's history? And a record that was likely made before you were born? Does it hurt that much that OSU owned you during the Tressel era? And the fact that the last time you beat us this decade was when we had an interim head coach? What you fail to understand is that I want your program to be good because it makes it that much better when we keep winning.
@samuel0917 Wow. That was really intelligent. How'd you get out from under the bridge, troll?